March 1999 Minutes
IEEE
Storage System Standards
Working Group
(P1244)

Held at
Hyatt Islandia, San Diego, California

March 15-19, 1999

Evening Out at Hotel del Coronado
 

IEEE Sponsor, Merritt Jones
SSSWG Chair, Jack Cole
MMS Editors, Geoff Peck, Curtis Anderson
MSSRM Editor, Sam Coleman

1244.1 Architecture/Data Model (Geoff Peck, Curtis Anderson, Joel Williams, Murali Sathyanarayana editors)
1244.2 Session Security, Authentication, and Initialization Protocol (Jan Klier, editor)
1244.3 Media Management Protocol (Murali Sathyanarayana, editor)
1244.4 Drive Management Protocol (Joel Williams, editor)
1244.5 Library Management Protocol (Joel Williams, editor)

ATTENDANCE (14).

Curtis Anderson         SGI               curtis@sgi.com
Jack Cole               ARL               jack.cole@ieee.org
Sam Coleman		retired           available on request
R. Troy Eberlein	LEGATO            teberlein@legato.com
Bruce Haddon		SUN               bkh@spot.colorado.edu
Dixon Hutchinson        EXABYTE           hutch@exabyte.com
Merritt Jones		MITRE             merritt@mitre.org
Linda Kempster		IITRI             lkempster@iitri.org
Jan Klier               HP                jan_klier@hp.com
Stuart Kreitman         LEGATO            skreitman@legato.com
Paul Lockwood           LEGATO            plock@legato.com
Geoff Peck              QUANTUM (Cons.)   geoff@peck.com
Murali Sathyanarayana   SGI               murali@engr.sgi.com
Joel Williams           SES               joelw@ses-inc.com

THANKS.   Dixon Hutchinson/Exabyte provided an LCD projector for WG use.

ADMINISTRATIVEThe meeting began at 1pm on Monday with attendance and registration. No changes to the January meeting minutes from Boulder were proposed, so the minutes were accepted as submitted.  The proposed agenda was discussed and modified by an evolutionary process throughout the meeting. The meeting ended at 4pm Friday.

DISCUSSION.   The primary purpose of the meeting this week was to come to closure on all open issues.  And as a result, some issues will remain unresolved through this first version of the set of five draft standards.  These will be held as a list of future improvements to the standards.  But it was felt to be essential that the work be limited sufficiently to get to balloting this year.  The only issue left for discussion at the end of this meeting was that of the blind robot proposal (BRP).   Geoff and Curtis will meet in the week following this meeting to conclude discussion of the BRP.

Rough notes of the discussions and issues for the meeting follow...

Discussion began Monday with re-development of the list of areas needing discussion:

  1. Blind robot support - Weds morning
  2. Reservation - batch ONLY. Future reservations addressed later. (30 min discussion)
  3. Drive cleaning, cleaning carts - Murali added in DMP. (DONE - see below for details)
  4. Slot groups, openport, etc.( 30 MIN discussion)
  5. Cart orientation inside a LM. Use side parameter on mount/unmount cmd. Need to store in DB. Curtis - LM respon. (DONE - standard already addresses)
  6. STK's new slot handle multiple cartridges. Now tokens must match rather than 1:n mapping (Not to be done before balloting)
  7. Att/show turning into get/set in LMP - (DONE - see 5.h)
  8. LM/DM model 2-layer name space (DONE - see below for details)
  9. I18N Internationalization (Bruce/Geoff has the documentation, 15 min lecture)
  10. Allowing cmds while LM/DM in each ready state (DONE)
  11. Asynchronous startup of the MMS components needs to be discussed (30-Minutes 3/18).
  12. Stuart’s issues
  13. Conformance - need to make a general statement. (30 Minute discussion, Geoff will then condense it).
  14. Should Diffie-Hillman be added to SSAIP (10-minutes)
  15. Security of the where clause (The clauses are at the north pole)
  16. Linda's comments about Arch Doc - lots of holes still there. (Geoff and Linda will have a discussion)
  17. Drive cleaning. See MMP pg 121 from web 3/12
  18. In DB 8.2.1.17 - drive needs cleaning true/false, pushed by DM @ unmount. NEED to check on mount also. Include WHERE clause in MOUNT to allow 1 cleaning app per site instead of 1 per machine. Tri-state (FALSE, ADVISORY, MANDATORY) will be implemented.
  19. Event notification (NOT TO BE SOLVED FOR PHASE 1): apps being able to get notification about events in the MMS. Joel s/b like SNMP trap; Curtis/Geoff like DB trigger. Is it CMD-RES or CMD-RES-RES-RES.....
  20. (Item 5.h) Single-layer namespace under LM/DM. Name of attribute or value is not part of SSSWG. Up/down is single-layer now. Q: what to attach to, LM or Library object? Should up/down be symmetric? Going up, need to be able to specify LM or Library. This is only for private "scratchpad" information placed by a LM or DM on the MMS. Joel will fix uplink and leave the downlink in LM/DM docs.
  21. (Item 5.c) Cartidge type needs max mount count - Joel will add, will default to zero which indicates ignore this value ; this field is advisory from the MMS perspective. Have cart media type "cleaning". We already track number of mounts by cartridge.
  22. Joel: inject/eject directly between a drive/port and port/slot.
  23. Openport not needed… To be continued?

No meeting was held Tuesday so that members could attend part of the IEEE Mass Storage Symposium.

Work on Wednesday included:

  1. Review the list above
  2. Discussion of label processing for Blind Robots
  1. Reservations (not before balloting)
  2. A works in progress list needs to be added to the Arch Doc.
  3. Modify SSAIP to have a version string to allow for newer versions (ie I speak these, what do you want to speak). Add to document to say that we believe it is secure.
  4. Openport revisited:

Next Meeting.  April 28-39, 1999 near Reno, Nevada.

Future MeetingsSince SSSWG is approaching balloting of drafts, meetings are being held more frequently than usual.  As a consequence, dates and locations of regular "future" meetings are difficult to predict.   "Next meeting" is being determined at the time of each meeting.


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