SSSWG - May 1995 Minutes
IEEE Storage System Standards Working Group Meeting
16-19th May, 1995
Lockheed Martin, King of Prussia, Pennsylvania.
Attendance:
Bob Baird
Peter Berard
Carl Braganza
Jack Cole
Anat Gafni
Rich Garrison
Bruce K. Haddon
Merritt Jones
Michael T. Peterson
Dave Skinner
Eric Stouffler
Hamid Vazire
Rich Wrenn
Joel Williams
Chair: Dave Skinner.
Recording Secretary: Bruce K. Haddon.
General Session, Tuesday 16th May, 9.00 a.m.
Agenda
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General Session
Announcements
Minutes of the previous meeting
Treasurer's report
Review of Action Items from previous meeting
Status of recruitment and sponsorship
Status of RFP's
Report, discussion and decision of "Requirements for
Consistency" RFP (Mike Peterson)
Report and discussion of "Base Types" RFP (Mike Peterson)
Presentation and discussion of Overview of VSS (Bob Baird)
Subcommittee Sessions
Closing General Session
Subcommittee status (each Chairman)
Tabled Items
Review of Open Action Items
Draft Agenda for July meeting
Other Business
1. Announcements
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None.
2. Minutes of previous meeting
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## Resolved: that the minutes of the previous meeting, held March
1995, be taken as read and be approved
Moved: Mike Peterson; 2nd: Joel Williams.
Carried: unanimously.
3. Treasurer's Report
==================
Bank accounts have been moved to Louisville. Jack Cole will receive dues
for this meeting. Copies of the presented balance sheets are available
from Dave Skinner.
No questions were raised.
4. Review of Action Items from Previous Meeting
============================================
1. Locate a replacement for "swedishchef".
Responsible: Dave Skinner.
Due: 95/5 meeting
Status: "Swedishchef" is still available, and a mirror site
has been set up by Jack Cole at "arl.mil". There is both an
ftp site (ftp.arl.mil) and a WWW home page
(http://www.arl.mil/IEEE/ssswg.html)
Item closed.
2. First draft of a process for "internal" balloting with the
SSSWG.
Responsible: Jack Cole.
Due: 95/5 meeting
Status: A first draft was distributed to the present
membership. This will be discussed as business of this
meeting.
Item closed.
3. First draft of a process to address questions of lifetime,
size, logging, evaluation, etc. For RFP's.
Responsible: Dave Skinner and Jack Cole.
Due: 95/5 meeting
Status: It was decided that this item would be held over
until a time to be determined.
Item Open.
4. RFP to be issued: "Plug and Play".
Responsible: Dave Skinner (PVR).
Due: 3/31.
Status: The due date was changed to 6/15.
Item Open.
5. RFP to be issued: "Naming conventions".
Responsible: Creig Humes (MVR).
Due: 3/31.
Status: Added to agenda as a discussion item. Further
status TBD.
[Note added: no resolution was made.]
6. RFP to be issued: "API calling conventions (argument
passing)".
Responsible: Dave Skinner (PVR).
Due: 3/31.
Status: Added to agenda as a discussion item. Further
status TBD.
7. RFP to be issued: "Exception Handling and Error
propagation".
Responsible: Creig Humes (MVR).
Due: 3/31.
Status: Added to agenda as a discussion item. Further
status TBD.
[Note added: the resolution was to move this RFP to the PVR
group, with a due date of 6/15].
8. Status of the "draft" of the Reference Model (must it be
renewed, or is it a "guide" and does not need to be
renewed).
Responsible: Merritt Jones.
Due: 95/5 meeting.
Status: This matter was not discussed. By default, it will
be held to be due at the 95/7 meeting.
Item open.
9. Copy of the operating plan outline and subcommittee
operating plan to be posted to the reflector.
Responsible: Dave Skinner.
Due: 3/31.
Status: a voice consensus was taken on the idea that it
would be better to call this a "strategic" plan than an
"operating" plan. By the same method it was decided that
this item would be tabled (until taken up).
Item Open.
5. Status of recruitment and sponsorship
...=====================================
Some material has been posted to USENET in order to raise interest. Tim
Boyce expected from IBM, but may have customer situations with which to
deal.
Dave Skinner has done some presentations of SSSWG work and status to
Exabyte, E-Mass and others, and hopes that this will bring some more
membership. He also visited Fujitsu Japan, who has a PVR specification
that is available to those interested. He met with Sony, Hitachi, and
others, all of whom indicated interest, but will not attend due to
expense.
Dave will talk at Network Storage '95, Santa Clara, June 5,6,7.
6. Status of RFP's
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OID
Issued: Bob Baird (VSS)
One response and subsequent discussion. Bob Baird has updated the
response and a final report will be put on the ftp site and/or web
page.
"Plug and Play"
TBD.
Base Types
Issued: Mike Peterson (PVL)
Two responses. To be added to the agenda for the next meeting.
Criteria for consistency requirements between model components.
Issued: Mike Peterson.
Appears an agenda item for this meeting.
Naming conventions
Not issued.
API calling conventions (argument passing)
Not issued.
Exception handling and Error propagation
Not issued.
Discussion: Noted need to complete the definition of the process
for handling RFP's. Also noted was there are dependencies between
"Criteria for consistency requirements between model components",
"Naming conventions", and "API Calling conventions".
7. Report, discussion and decision of RFP: "Requirements for
Consistency" RFP. Mike Petersen
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This matter has been postponed to July meeting.
8. Dates
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* Dates for 1995
May 16-19: Valley Forge, Pennsylvania. (Host: Rich Garrison)
July 18-21: DEC, Seattle. (Host: Michael Peterson)
Sept. 14-15 (Monterey, at the end of the MSS)
Nov. 7-10 (tentatively ACSC, Los Angeles, Host: Anit Gafni)
* Dates for 1996 (partial list)
Jan 16-19 (tentatively), Tucson, Arizona (Host: Eric Stouffler,
IBM).
June (MSS is in Annecy, France).
9. Process for "Internal" Balloting within the SSSWG: Jack Cole.
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Discussion: covered attendance, voting period, quorum.
Meeting was adjourned for lunch.
The following were listed for discussion: eligibility; attendance,
quorum, voting period, title/scope and voting process.
## Resolved: that the applicability of this voting procedure cover
all publications from the SSSWG.
Moved: from the Chair.
Discussion: ranged over the advisability of broadening the title
and scope of the procedure.
Motion withdrawn by the mover.
## Resolved: The process to bring a standards proposal for internal
balloting by the SSSWG for submission to IEEE balloting is:
The (Sub)Committee Chair makes a motion to the SSSWG (with a
second) at a regular meeting to begin an internal ballot for
approval of submission of the proposal to IEEE balloting. If
the SSSWG so resolves (according to it usual voting rules
at a regular meeting), then:
The internal balloting period begins at that time;
The SSSWG Chair issues notification to the reflector less
than or equal to five days later;
The SSSWG Chair receives ballots from those qualified to
enter the ballot (see below) by email, mail, or in person;
No sooner than the next regular meeting, a motion will be
entertained by the SSSWG (moved and duly seconded by any
members of the SSSWG able to vote according to its usual
voting rules at a regular meeting) to end the internal
balloting period. If so resolved, the internal balloting
period ends at that time, and then:
A tally is made of the properly submitted ballots and
the result announced.
Moved: by the Chair.
Carried: without dissent.
## Resolved: that the qualification requirements for the above
internal balloting process be that the member must have attended
three out of the last seven meetings, inclusive, at the time the
ballot is cast.
Moved: by the Chair.
Carried: 7-1.
Bruce K. Haddon wished his dissent to the above motion be noted in
the minutes.
10. Presentation and discussion of Overview of VSS: Bob Baird
=========================================================
Bob Baird made a presentation of the Virtual Storage Architectural
Guide. Copies of the guide were previously distributed on the reflector.
Copies of the slides will be so distributed after this meeting. Copies
may be obtained by direct request to Bob.
A discussion ensued afterward that informed Bob of improvements that may
be made in his presentation. Many important and interesting points were
raised.
11. Mover and the Mover Group
=========================
A draft of current mover standard was distributed on the reflector last
week. The SSSWG Chairman met with the PVR group to discuss the
chairmanship and other issues.
It is proposed that no change be made in the Chairmanship at the moment.
Bruce K. Haddon will discuss the issues with the Mover membership.
12. PVR Group
=========
The SSSWG Chairman met with the PVR group to discuss the chairmanship
and other issues.
No change will be made in the chairmanship of the PVR group at this
time. Rich Wrenn offered to try to find time to assist with the editing
of material for the July and September meetings.
13. RFP for Exception Handling and Error Propagation
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Rich Wrenn presented a draft of a text for an RFP for exception handling
and error propagation that would be issued by the Chair of the PVR
Subcommittee (replacing the former RFP to be issued by the MVR
Subcommittee). Suggestions were made for a more general wording. The RFP
with the amended wording will be issued by Rich, on behalf of Dave.
Session adjourned at 5:21 PM, Tuesday, 16th May, 1995.
The session resumed at 8.54 am, Wednesday, 17th May, 1995.
## Resolved: that both the "Plug and Play" issue and the "Consistency
requirements" issue be tabled until the closing session.
Moved: Mike Peterson; 2nd; Rich Garrison.
Carried: without dissent.
The session adjourned to subcommittee meetings. The PVL, PVR, and MVR
subcommittees met during the remainder of the day. The PVL subcommittee
also met during the day, Thursday, 18th May, 1995, with observers from
the other subcommittees.
Session resumed at 9.05 am, Friday, 19th May, 1995
14. Tabled Items
=================
RFP for "Naming Conventions" and RFP for "API calling conventions"
The problem being addressed is the need for commonality of
concepts, formats, and naming conventions for the papers to be
presented at the Monterey meeting.
It was advanced that there is some advantage in forwarding some
stylistic variations in order to obtain wider input on the
questions raised in this area. In fact, it was suggested that a
questionnaire be prepared to direct attention to questions upon
which feedback is most urgently desired.
The decision that there should be an RFP on "Naming Conventions"
generated was left in place. The Chair will negotiate for a
sponsor for this RFP.
No action was taken on the RFP for "API Calling Conventions".
15. Review of Open Action Items
===========================
1. First draft of a process to address questions of lifetime,
size, logging, evaluation, etc. For RFP's.
Responsible: Dave Skinner and Jack Cole
Due: Unspecified.
2. RFP to be issued: "Plug and Play".
Responsible: Dave Skinner (PVR).
Due: 5/31.
3. RFP to be issued: "Naming conventions".
Responsible: Creig Humes (MVR). or replacement.
Due: Unspecified.
4. RFP to be issued: "API calling conventions (argument
passing)".
Responsible: Dave Skinner (PVR).
Due: Unspecified.
5. RFP to be issued: "Exception Handling and Error
propagation".
Responsible: Creig Humes (MVR).
Due: Unspecified.
6. Status of the "draft" of the Reference Model (must it be
renewed, or is it a "guide" and does not need to be
renewed).
Responsible: Merritt Jones.
Due: 95/7 meeting.
7. Copy of the strategic plan outline and subcommittee
strategic plan to be posted to the reflector.
Responsible: Dave Skinner.
Due: Unspecified.
16. Proposed agenda for 95/7 meeting
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General Session
Announcements
Minutes of the previous meeting
Treasurer's report
Review of Action Items from previous meeting
Status of recruitment and sponsorship.
Status of RFP's.
PVL Presentation of draft (Michael T. Peterson)
PVR Presentation of draft (David E. Skinner)
MVR Presentation of draft (Bruce K. Haddon)
Discussion of "base types" (Bruce K. Haddon)
Subcommittee Sessions
Closing General Session
Subcommittee status (each Chairman)
Tabled Items
Review of Action Items
Agenda for 95/9 meeting.
## Resolved: that this proposed agenda be accepted.
Moved: from the Chair.
Carried: unanimously.
16. Other business
==============
A summary of the concept of "session" that was discussed in the PVL
Subcommittee meeting yesterday will be posted to the reflector by Dave
Skinner. This concept was discussed as a means of abstracting the notion
of the entity to which storage system resources are allocated.
Session was adjourned 9:47 am, Friday, 19 May, 1995.
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